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== About Plessiez ==
== About Plessiez ==


Despite signing up in 2006 (apparently), I've never really played much here ..this isn't very likely to change in the near future.
Despite signing up in 2006 (apparently), I've never really played much here.  This isn't very likely to change in the near future. I've played (and modded) a few dozen games on other sites though, for what little that's worth.
 
Actually, I haven't played much mafia at all since 2008.  Played a few games since then, but a handful a year is probably my limit.  When I was playing regularly I played at Westeros; I still play/mod there now and then.  On MafiaScum I am more likely to be a hydra than to play as myself, since it's fun to blame other people ({{U|Zar}}) for my mistakes.


If you're here looking for meta ... well, I haven't drawn scum on any forum since 2007, so I'm pretty sure that I'm town in your game, too?  ("Hot hand fallacy?  What's that?")


== Playing History ==
== Playing History ==


My only completed games on site are:
My only completed games on site are:
{{Gametable2
|number=09
|name=MS Fantasy Camp 2
|thread=46097
|mod={{U|Lost Butterfly}}
|role=BBmolla Fanboy
|rolecolor=33FF00
|fate=Died Night 2
|decision=Mafia win Day 7
|decisioncolor=FF3300
|entry=Replaced {{U|ChannelDeliBird}} on day 2
|notes=Literally every single person I voted for in this game was lynched the same day I voted for them.  And every single person I voted for was scum.  Oh, and I didn't vote for anybody who already had any votes on them.  I mean, sure, I only actually voted once, I didn't have any actual reads or arguments and I'm not entirely sure why the scum bothered killing me.  And sure, this being a {{U|Faraday}} game, scum won anyway.  But these are just details, right?}}
{{Gametable2
|number=08
|name=Mini 1555 - Board Games UPick
|thread=39066
|mod={{U|penguin_alien}} and {{U|Lucky2u}} (as {{U|The Betting Pool}})
|role=[[Gladiator|Glory to Rome, Town One-Shot Gladiator]]
|rolecolor=33FF00
|fate=Died Night 4
|decision=Town win Day 6
|decisioncolor=33FF00
|entry=Original player (as {{U|Hadrian}})
|notes=Yay!  I think Tammy would agree that our reads weren't very good this game, but if you get night-killed ahead of the mod-confirmed [[Innocent Child|innocent child]] you must have done <i>something</i> right...}}


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|name=The Wire, Season 1
|name=The Wire, Season 1
|thread=25285
|thread=25285
|mod={{U|Faraday}} and {{U|Nexus}} (as The Baltimore Sun)
|mod={{U|Faraday}} and {{U|Nexus}} (as {{U|The&#32;Baltimore&#32;Sun}})
|role=[[VT|Wintell "Little Man" Royce: Barksdale Goon]]
|role=[[VT|Wintell "Little Man" Royce: Barksdale Goon]]
|rolecolor=33FF00
|rolecolor=33FF00
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|decisioncolor=FF3300
|decisioncolor=FF3300
|entry=Original player (as {{U|Plessiezarus}})
|entry=Original player (as {{U|Plessiezarus}})
|notes=Lyncher is an awful role.  Um.  Town played pretty well up to day 2 - lynching the Traitor and then vigging one of the PO-lice. Things went downhill pretty fast after that though.  I thought that {{U|kuribo}} did a good job after replacing into a fairly suspicious slot? And at least town managed to get to a final three-player endgame.  Was glad to die when I did though.}}
|notes=Lyncher is an awful role.  Um.  Town played pretty well up to day 2 - lynching the Traitor and then vigging one of the PO-lice. Things went downhill pretty fast after that though.  I thought that {{U|kuribo}} did a good job after replacing into a fairly suspicious slot? And at least town managed to get to a final three-player endgame.  Was glad we died when we did though.}}


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|name=A Dance With Dragons Mafia
|name=A Dance With Dragons Mafia
|thread=23120
|thread=23120
|mod={{U|Eddard Stark}}
|mod={{U|Faraday}} and {{U|Nexus}} (as {{U|Eddard Stark}})
|role=[[Roleblocker|Skinner: Non Consecutive Roleblocker]]
|role=[[Roleblocker|Skinner: Non Consecutive Roleblocker]]
|rolecolor=33FF00
|rolecolor=33FF00
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|decision=Mafia Win Day 3
|decision=Mafia Win Day 3
|decisioncolor=FF3300
|decisioncolor=FF3300
|entry=Replaced {{U|HonoryHitchhiker}}
|entry=Replaced {{U|HonoryHitchhiker}} on Day 1
|notes=Presumably the town only lost because they were cruelly deprived of my insight?  I don't know, I have no memory of this game (or any of my newbie games, obviously).}}
|notes=Presumably the town only lost because they were cruelly deprived of my insight?  I don't know, I have no memory of this game (or any of my newbie games, obviously.).}}


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|decisioncolor=33FF00
|decisioncolor=33FF00
|entry=Original player
|entry=Original player
|notes=}}
|notes= Maybe mafia is easy after all?}}


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|decisioncolor=FF3300
|decisioncolor=FF3300
|entry=Original player
|entry=Original player
|notes=}}
|notes= Oh wait, maybe it's harder than it looks.  Actually, until late 2012, this was the only time I'd ever been endgamed on any mafia site.  Then I managed it twice in a row, because shut up.}}


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|decisioncolor=33FF00
|decisioncolor=33FF00
|entry=Original player
|entry=Original player
|notes=}}
|notes=Wow, mafia is easy!}}


== Statistics ==
== Modding History ==


=== Town Statistics ===
{{ModGametable2|name=Open 509|thread=29695|desc=An [[Open Game]] for 13 players using the [[Friends and Enemies]] set-up.}}
{{ModGameline2|player={{U|BS2000}}|role=[[Goon|Mafia Goon]]|rolecolor=FF3300|fate=Lynched Day 1|decision=Town Win|decisioncolor=00FF33}}
{{ModGameline2|player={{U|chesskid3}} |role=[[VT|Vanilla Town]]|rolecolor=00FF33|fate=Killed Night 2|decision=Town Win|decisioncolor=00FF33}}
{{ModGameline2|player={{U|ellabelle}} |role=[[Mason|Town Mason]]|rolecolor=00FF33|fate=Survived|decision=Town Win|decisioncolor=00FF33}}
{{ModGameline2|player={{U|Ellibereth}} |role=[[Mason|Town Mason]]|rolecolor=00FF33|fate=Survived|decision=Town Win|decisioncolor=00FF33}}
{{ModGameline2|player={{U|Gnomeo}}|role=[[Goon|Mafia Goon]]|rolecolor=FF3300|fate=Lynched Day 3|decision=Town Win|decisioncolor=00FF33}}
{{ModGameline2|player=<s>ConfidAnon</s> {{U|HouseLannister}} |role=[[VT|Vanilla Town]]|rolecolor=00FF33|fate=Lynched Day 2|decision=Town Win|decisioncolor=00FF33}}
{{ModGameline2|player={{U|innocentvillager}} |role=[[Mason|Town Mason]]|rolecolor=00FF33|fate=Survived|decision=Town Win|decisioncolor=00FF33}}
{{ModGameline2|player={{U|Mantisdreamz}} |role=[[VT|Vanilla Town]]|rolecolor=00FF33|fate=Killed Night 1|decision=Town Win|decisioncolor=00FF33}}
{{ModGameline2|player={{U|Nani}} |role=[[VT|Vanilla Town]]|rolecolor=00FF33|fate=Survived|decision=Town Win|decisioncolor=00FF33}}
{{ModGameline2|player={{U|NicCage}} |role=[[VT|Vanilla Town]]|rolecolor=00FF33|fate=Killed Night 3|decision=Town Win|decisioncolor=00FF33}}
{{ModGameline2|player=<s>NicolBolas</s> {{U|talah}} |role=[[VT|Vanilla Town]]|rolecolor=00FF33|fate=Survived|decision=Town Win|decisioncolor=00FF33}}
{{ModGameline2|player={{U|Thomas}}|role=[[Goon|Mafia Goon]]|rolecolor=FF3300|fate=Lynched Day 4|decision=Town Win|decisioncolor=00FF33}}
{{ModGameline2|player={{U|Whiskers}} |role=[[VT|Vanilla Town]]|rolecolor=00FF33|fate=Survived|decision=Town Win|decisioncolor=00FF33}}


I quite like the idea of quantifying how bad I am at being town.  But [[SWA|Scum/Wagon Average]] can only say I didn't do well at lynching scum, not direct me to the parts of my game I should try to improve.
{{ModGamenotes2|notes=This was the first game I'd modded on-site, and I picked a boring set-up mostly to avoid giving myself chances to mess things up.  The game was a pretty comfortable town win in the end, despite a fairly heated town against town fight that took up all of day 2.}}


I'm stealing an idea from a [http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=3077660#p3077660|a post] by {{U|hitogoroshi}} and breaking "town-skills" into four things I can try to (crudely) measure.
{{ModGametable2|name=Large Normal 172|thread=41158|desc=A [[Large Normal]] for 20 players.}}
 
{{ModGameline2|player=<s>Mister Rogers</s> {{U|penguin_alien}}|role=[[VT|Vanilla Town]]|rolecolor=00FF33|fate=Survived|decision=Town Win|decisioncolor=00FF33}}
 
{{ModGameline2|player=<s>zakk</s> {{U|talah}}|role=[[VT|Vanilla Town]]|rolecolor=00FF33|fate=Killed Night 1|decision=Town Win|decisioncolor=00FF33}}
'''Transparency''' (How well am I read as town?)
{{ModGameline2|player=<s>bjc</s> {{U|Snork}}|role=[[Gunsmith|Gunsmith]]|rolecolor=00FF33|fate=Survived|decision=Town Win|decisioncolor=00FF33}}
 
{{ModGameline2|player=<s>Doc Holliday</s> <s>pisskop</s> {{U|TheWayItEnds}}|role=[[VT|Vanilla Town]]|rolecolor=00FF33|fate=Survived|decision=Town Win|decisioncolor=00FF33}}
My transparency score each day is the smallest number of votes I was ever away from being lynched, divided by the number of votes in total needed to lynch somebody that day.  And my transparency score over the whole game is just the average such score for each day I was alive.  100% means I was never voted for, 0% means I was lynched on day 1.
{{ModGameline2|player=<s>Smudger</s> {{U|AngryPidgeon}}|role=[[Goon|Mafia Goon]]|rolecolor=FF3300|fate=Lynched Day 3|decision=Town Win|decisioncolor=00FF33}}
 
{{ModGameline2|player={{U|Luca&nbsp;Blight}}|role=[[VT|Vanilla Town]]|rolecolor=00FF33|fate=Lynched Day 1|decision=Town Win|decisioncolor=00FF33}}
'''Accuracy''' (How well can I identify other people as scum?)
{{ModGameline2|player=<s>BipolarChemist</s> {{U|Egg}}|role=[[VT|Vanilla Town]]|rolecolor=00FF33|fate=Survived|decision=Town Win|decisioncolor=00FF33}}
 
{{ModGameline2|player={{U|Nero&nbsp;Cain}}|role=[[VT|Vanilla Town]]|rolecolor=00FF33|fate=Killed Night 1|decision=Town Win|decisioncolor=00FF33}}
I'm measuring this by simply counting up my (unique per day) votes for scum and dividing by the total number of such votes I cast.  100% means I only ever voted for scum.  0% means I cast at least one vote for town and cast no votes for scum.
{{ModGameline2|player=<s>aptil</s> {{U|SiX}}|role=[[JOAT|Jack of all Trades]]|rolecolor=00FF33|fate=Survived|decision=Town Win|decisioncolor=00FF33}}
 
{{ModGameline2|player={{U|Yates}}|role=[[Goon|Mafia Goon]]|rolecolor=FF3300|fate=[[Modkilled]] Night 3|decision=Town Win|decisioncolor=00FF33}}
'''Persuasion''' (How likely are people to join wagons I push?)
{{ModGameline2|player==<s>BBmolla</s> <s>projectmatt</s> {{U|fferyllt}}|role=[[Vigilante|Compulsive Even-Night Vigilante]]|rolecolor=00FF33|fate=Survived|decision=Town Win|decisioncolor=00FF33}}
 
{{ModGameline2|player={{U|PeregrineV}}|role=[[VT|Vanilla Town]]|rolecolor=00FF33|fate=Survived|decision=Town Win|decisioncolor=00FF33}}
For every vote I cast, work out (the number of people who joined the wagon after me before I unvoted or the day ended) / (one less than the number of people needed to lynch).  Then average this score for each vote I cast.  100% means that every vote I cast was for somebody who had no votes yet and that person was inevitably lynched, 0% means nobody ever joined a wagon I was on.
{{ModGameline2|player={{U|mastin2}}|role=[[Goon|Mafia Goon]]|rolecolor=FF3300|fate=Lynched Day 2|decision=Town Win|decisioncolor=00FF33}}
 
{{ModGameline2|player={{U|SnowStorm}}|role=[[VT|Vanilla Town]]=|rolecolor=00FF33|fate=Survived|decision=Town Win|decisioncolor=00FF33}}
'''Pragmatism''' (How likely was my vote to be on the final wagon?)
{{ModGameline2|player={{U|Damon_Gant}}|role=[[VT|Vanilla Town]]|rolecolor=00FF33|fate=Survived|decision=Town Win|decisioncolor=00FF33}}
 
{{ModGameline2|player={{U|4nxi3ty}}|role=[[VT|Vanilla Town]]|rolecolor=00FF33|fate=Killed Night 2|decision=Town Win|decisioncolor=00FF33}}
I'm scoring this as 0 if the day ended at deadline with no lynch and I wasn't voting for the largest not-me wagon.  Otherwise it's the size of the wagon I was on when the day ended, divided by the number of votes needed for a lynch. And obviously this is averaged over every day I was alive.  100% means I was on every successful lynch.  0% means I was never on a successful lynch.
{{ModGameline2|player={{U|RachMarie}}|role=[[JOAT|Jack of all Trades]]|rolecolor=00FF33|fate=Killed Night 3|decision=Town Win|decisioncolor=00FF33}}
 
{{ModGameline2|player={{U|Zdenek}}|role=[[VT|Vanilla Town]]|rolecolor=00FF33|fate=Survived|decision=Town Win|decisioncolor=00FF33}}
I'm counting things like the day 1 'choose' mechanic from ADWD as a lynch, but otherwise a lynch is just a normal lynch.  Vig-shots and the like don't count.  Also, note that numbers might not be ''completely'' accurate since I got the data by isoing myself and the mod in each game.  Might have missed a couple of votes on me or a couple of additional votes on wagons I started.
{{ModGameline2|player={{U|ThAdmiral}}|role=[[Ascetic|Mafia Ascetic]]|rolecolor=FF3300|fate=Lynched Day 4|decision=Town Win|decisioncolor=00FF33}}
 
{{ModGameline2|player={{U|DeasVail}}|role=[[VT|Vanilla Town]]|rolecolor=00FF33|fate=Survived|decision=Town Win|decisioncolor=00FF33}}
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Game Name !! Transparency !! Accuracy !! Persuasion !! Pragmatism
|-
| A Dance With Dragons Mafia || 100% || 40% || 47% || 50%
|-
| Mini 1405 || 97% || 20% || 66% || 20%
|-
| The Wire Season One || 95% || 17% || 63% || 75%
|-
|}
 
... um.  Yeah.  Pretty obvious what I need to work on, isn't it?  I think the 40% accuracy of ADWD is pretty good really (especially as all the relevant votes were cast on day 1).  Later two games are clearly below par though.
 
At least I'm pretty good at sounding like town and getting people to vote for my scum-reads?
 
=== Scum Statistics ===
 
Haven't drawn a scum role on this (or any other) mafia site since 2008.  Presumably I am very very bad at it.  If you're reading me in a game and you aren't 100% convinced I'm scum, I'm probably town!
 
== Modding History ==


No completed games (yet).
{{ModGamenotes2|notes=So many replacements!  Yates' modkill was unfortunate (but pretty much forced) and after that scum really had no serious chance.}}


[[Category:Scummers]]
[[Category:Scummers]]

Latest revision as of 23:10, 5 July 2014

About Plessiez

Despite signing up in 2006 (apparently), I've never really played much here. This isn't very likely to change in the near future. I've played (and modded) a few dozen games on other sites though, for what little that's worth.

If you're here looking for meta ... well, I haven't drawn scum on any forum since 2007, so I'm pretty sure that I'm town in your game, too? ("Hot hand fallacy? What's that?")

Playing History

My only completed games on site are:

(09)

Name Moderator Role Fate Decision Entry
MS Fantasy Camp 2 Lost Butterfly BBmolla Fanboy Died Night 2 Mafia win Day 7 Replaced ChannelDeliBird on day 2
Literally every single person I voted for in this game was lynched the same day I voted for them. And every single person I voted for was scum. Oh, and I didn't vote for anybody who already had any votes on them. I mean, sure, I only actually voted once, I didn't have any actual reads or arguments and I'm not entirely sure why the scum bothered killing me. And sure, this being a Faraday game, scum won anyway. But these are just details, right?

(08)

Name Moderator Role Fate Decision Entry
Mini 1555 - Board Games UPick penguin_alien and Lucky2u (as The Betting Pool) Glory to Rome, Town One-Shot Gladiator Died Night 4 Town win Day 6 Original player (as Hadrian)
Yay! I think Tammy would agree that our reads weren't very good this game, but if you get night-killed ahead of the mod-confirmed innocent child you must have done something right...

(07)

Name Moderator Role Fate Decision Entry
The Wire, Season 1 Faraday and Nexus (as The Baltimore Sun) Wintell "Little Man" Royce: Barksdale Goon Died Night 4 PO-lice win Day 7 Original player (as Plessiezarus)
Lyncher is an awful role. Um. Town played pretty well up to day 2 - lynching the Traitor and then vigging one of the PO-lice. Things went downhill pretty fast after that though. I thought that kuribo did a good job after replacing into a fairly suspicious slot? And at least town managed to get to a final three-player endgame. Was glad we died when we did though.

(06)

Name Moderator Role Fate Decision Entry
Mini 1405 - The Simpsons Ser Arthur Dayne Apu Nahasapeemapetilon: Macho Townie Endgamed Mafia Win Night 5 Original player
Signing up for bastard games (and telling yourself you won't mind when they turn out to be hideously unbalanced) is not a smart idea? Town played fairly badly, on the whole, despite lynching mafia on days 2 and 3, but probably would have lost even if we'd managed to play well, so meh. I thought my case for saulres being scum was pretty convincing, even if it did turn out to be entirely wrong


(05)

Name Moderator Role Fate Decision Entry
A Dance With Dragons Mafia Faraday and Nexus (as Eddard Stark) Skinner: Non Consecutive Roleblocker Died Night 2 Stannis Win Night 8 Original player (as Plessiezarus)
A disappointing game to lose, really. Town seemed to scumhunt fairly well, and our own reads (that is, Zar's reads) weren't too bad either. No crosskills at all, though, and almost everyone had Pandora as town from day 1, which was less than accurate. Was fun to hydra with Zar, anyway.

(04)

Name Moderator Role Fate Decision Entry
Newbie 446 - Jellyville VI petroleumjelly Townie Died Night 1 Mafia Win Day 3 Replaced HonoryHitchhiker on Day 1
Presumably the town only lost because they were cruelly deprived of my insight? I don't know, I have no memory of this game (or any of my newbie games, obviously.).

(03)

Name Moderator Role Fate Decision Entry
Newbie 370 Fletcher Townie Survived Town Win Day 2 Original player
Maybe mafia is easy after all?

(02)

Name Moderator Role Fate Decision Entry
Newbie 214 - Seven Left Mafia inHimshallibe Townie Endgamed Mafia Win Day 2 Original player
Oh wait, maybe it's harder than it looks. Actually, until late 2012, this was the only time I'd ever been endgamed on any mafia site. Then I managed it twice in a row, because shut up.

(01)

Name Moderator Role Fate Decision Entry
Newbie 203 Mr. Flay Townie Survived Town Win Day 2. Original player
Wow, mafia is easy!

Modding History

Open 509
An Open Game for 13 players using the Friends and Enemies set-up.
Player Slot Role Fate Decision
BS2000 Mafia Goon Lynched Day 1 Town Win
chesskid3 Vanilla Town Killed Night 2 Town Win
ellabelle Town Mason Survived Town Win
Ellibereth Town Mason Survived Town Win
Gnomeo Mafia Goon Lynched Day 3 Town Win
ConfidAnon HouseLannister Vanilla Town Lynched Day 2 Town Win
innocentvillager Town Mason Survived Town Win
Mantisdreamz Vanilla Town Killed Night 1 Town Win
Nani Vanilla Town Survived Town Win
NicCage Vanilla Town Killed Night 3 Town Win
NicolBolas talah Vanilla Town Survived Town Win
Thomas Mafia Goon Lynched Day 4 Town Win
Whiskers Vanilla Town Survived Town Win
This was the first game I'd modded on-site, and I picked a boring set-up mostly to avoid giving myself chances to mess things up. The game was a pretty comfortable town win in the end, despite a fairly heated town against town fight that took up all of day 2.
Large Normal 172
A Large Normal for 20 players.
Player Slot Role Fate Decision
Mister Rogers penguin_alien Vanilla Town Survived Town Win
zakk talah Vanilla Town Killed Night 1 Town Win
bjc Snork Gunsmith Survived Town Win
Doc Holliday pisskop TheWayItEnds Vanilla Town Survived Town Win
Smudger AngryPidgeon Mafia Goon Lynched Day 3 Town Win
Luca Blight Vanilla Town Lynched Day 1 Town Win
BipolarChemist Egg Vanilla Town Survived Town Win
Nero Cain Vanilla Town Killed Night 1 Town Win
aptil SiX Jack of all Trades Survived Town Win
Yates Mafia Goon Modkilled Night 3 Town Win
=BBmolla projectmatt fferyllt Compulsive Even-Night Vigilante Survived Town Win
PeregrineV Vanilla Town Survived Town Win
mastin2 Mafia Goon Lynched Day 2 Town Win
SnowStorm Vanilla Town= Survived Town Win
Damon_Gant Vanilla Town Survived Town Win
4nxi3ty Vanilla Town Killed Night 2 Town Win
RachMarie Jack of all Trades Killed Night 3 Town Win
Zdenek Vanilla Town Survived Town Win
ThAdmiral Mafia Ascetic Lynched Day 4 Town Win
DeasVail Vanilla Town Survived Town Win
So many replacements! Yates' modkill was unfortunate (but pretty much forced) and after that scum really had no serious chance.