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A '''Vengeful''' player is a one that, when lynched, is awarded the ability to kill any other player as they die.
A '''Vengeful''' player is a one that, when [[Lynch|lynched]], is awarded the ability to kill any other player as they die.


Vengeful roles are much more commonly Town than Mafia, as Vengeful Mafia roles essentially punish the Town for lynching them.
Vengeful roles are much more commonly [[Town]] than [[Mafia]], as Vengeful Mafia roles essentially punish the Town for lynching them.
 
==Normal Guidelines==
 
'''Vengeful''' is a valid role to be used in a [[Normal]] game, but only if that role is Town-aligned.
 
A Vengeful Townie's action is only available to them if they are lynched. They are to submit their action in [[Twilight]]. This action is not compulsive. Sending a kill target or no-kill will end [[Day]].


==Variations==
==Variations==
A '''Super Saint''' is a Vengeful Townie who only kills the person who placed the [[hammer]] vote (they do not get to choose).  The Super Saint is notably featured in the mafia variant [[SS3]].
A '''Super Saint''' is a Vengeful Townie who only kills the person who placed the [[hammer]] vote (they do not get to choose).  The Super Saint is notably featured in the mafia variant [[SS3]].
Some moderators interchange the names Vengeful and [[Bomb]].


In [[Vengeful Mafia]] games, the Vengeful Townie may only kill if the game is in a [[LyLo]] state.  However, this is not done in any other setup.
In [[Vengeful Mafia]] games, the Vengeful Townie may only kill if the game is in a [[LyLo]] state.  However, this is not done in any other setup.
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Some versions of Vengeful are allowed to kill a player upon death regardless of whether they are lynched or killed by another means.
Some versions of Vengeful are allowed to kill a player upon death regardless of whether they are lynched or killed by another means.


In Non-[[Normal]] games, Vengeful may be used as a [[:Category:Role Modifiers|role modifier]]. For example, a Vengeful [[Cop]] would get a result when they are lynched. From this point of view, the regular Vengeful Townie is essentially a Vengeful [[Vigilante]].
==Use & Power==


==Use and Power==
Vengeful when given to the Town can be seen as a way to redeem the faction and act against [[swing]].
A Vengeful Townie is in effect a bonus kill for its faction, pending the player's lynch.  This is the best case - there is theoretically a less-than-50% chance that the Vengeful player will not be lynched, and the role will do nothing.  Thus, it is notably low-power.


A Vengeful scum role gives the scum a free kill. The scum will tend to engineer a bus on a Vengeful scum role specifically to get this kill out.
Essentially, Vengeful Townies are in a unique position to solve speculated problems. If there are already a high number of [[Power Roles]] as in a [[Role Madness]] game, Vengeful can be seen as a good addition to the town.
 
As it is a straightforward role to play, consider adding a [[Gladiator]] instead.
 
It must be decided before the game begins whether a Vengeful kill will work in [[LyLo]].
 
Vengeful scum roles greatly enhance [[swing]]. A lynch is the Town's weapon against scum: giving scum an extra kill essentially punishes the Town for doing what Town is expected to do. For adding dynamic gameplay that changes upon the lynch of a scum player, consider [[Enabler]].


==Play Advice==
==Play Advice==
Claiming Vengeful Townie is not advised (unless your actual role is Vengeful and Mafia-aligned).  The effect of giving its faction a bonus kill is useless unless you yourself are worth lynching - otherwise it's obviously more profitable to lynch the player you would Vengefully kill while leaving you alive.  Thus, Vengeful claims under duress are seen as grounds for a [[policy lynch]].
Claiming Vengeful Townie is not advised (unless your actual role is Vengeful and Mafia-aligned).  The effect of giving its faction a bonus kill is useless unless you yourself are worth lynching - otherwise it's obviously more profitable to lynch the player you would Vengefully kill while leaving you alive.  Thus, Vengeful claims under duress are seen as grounds for a [[policy lynch]].
As a Vengeful kill is in its best case, a second chance at a lynch, a Vengeful player is already working uphill just by getting the opportunity to use their power.  It's best to kill whoever would be the lynch the next day as a [[Vigilante]] would. If the Town is at [[Odds]], consider no-killing, as the Town may go to [[Evens]] on the next day, and depending on game factors this may offer crucial information to be gained from [[NKA|Night Kill Analysis]].


If you are still unclaimed at three-player [[LyLo]], consider deliberately getting lynched and using your vengekill on the hapless [[quickhammer|quickhammering]] scum.
If you are still unclaimed at three-player [[LyLo]], consider deliberately getting lynched and using your vengekill on the hapless [[quickhammer|quickhammering]] scum.
==Sample Role PM==
{{RolePM|TVengeful}}
==See Also==
===Similar Roles===
A [[Gladiator]] limits the players eligible to be lynched to the Gladiator and its target.
A [[Vigilante]] is a Normally pro-Town role that can kill another player at night.
===Related Articles===
[[Vengeful Mafia]] is a setup that features a Day 1 Vengeful kill for Town, should they [[mislynch]].


[[Category:Role Modifiers]]
[[Category:Role Modifiers]]

Revision as of 23:32, 19 May 2018

Vengeful (role)
T-vengefultownie.png
Aliases:
  • Vengeful Townie
  • Hunter
Alignment: any
Role type:
  • Killing
  • Passive
Choice: none
Vengeful (role)
T-supersaint.png
Alias:
  • Super Saint
Alignment: any
Role type:
  • Killing
  • Passive
Choice: none

A Vengeful player is a one that, when lynched, is awarded the ability to kill any other player as they die.

Vengeful roles are much more commonly Town than Mafia, as Vengeful Mafia roles essentially punish the Town for lynching them.

Normal Guidelines

Vengeful is a valid role to be used in a Normal game, but only if that role is Town-aligned.

A Vengeful Townie's action is only available to them if they are lynched. They are to submit their action in Twilight. This action is not compulsive. Sending a kill target or no-kill will end Day.

Variations

A Super Saint is a Vengeful Townie who only kills the person who placed the hammer vote (they do not get to choose). The Super Saint is notably featured in the mafia variant SS3.

In Vengeful Mafia games, the Vengeful Townie may only kill if the game is in a LyLo state. However, this is not done in any other setup.

Some versions of Vengeful are allowed to kill a player upon death regardless of whether they are lynched or killed by another means.

Use & Power

Vengeful when given to the Town can be seen as a way to redeem the faction and act against swing.

Essentially, Vengeful Townies are in a unique position to solve speculated problems. If there are already a high number of Power Roles as in a Role Madness game, Vengeful can be seen as a good addition to the town.

As it is a straightforward role to play, consider adding a Gladiator instead.

It must be decided before the game begins whether a Vengeful kill will work in LyLo.

Vengeful scum roles greatly enhance swing. A lynch is the Town's weapon against scum: giving scum an extra kill essentially punishes the Town for doing what Town is expected to do. For adding dynamic gameplay that changes upon the lynch of a scum player, consider Enabler.

Play Advice

Claiming Vengeful Townie is not advised (unless your actual role is Vengeful and Mafia-aligned). The effect of giving its faction a bonus kill is useless unless you yourself are worth lynching - otherwise it's obviously more profitable to lynch the player you would Vengefully kill while leaving you alive. Thus, Vengeful claims under duress are seen as grounds for a policy lynch.

As a Vengeful kill is in its best case, a second chance at a lynch, a Vengeful player is already working uphill just by getting the opportunity to use their power. It's best to kill whoever would be the lynch the next day as a Vigilante would. If the Town is at Odds, consider no-killing, as the Town may go to Evens on the next day, and depending on game factors this may offer crucial information to be gained from Night Kill Analysis.

If you are still unclaimed at three-player LyLo, consider deliberately getting lynched and using your vengekill on the hapless quickhammering scum.

Sample Role PM

Vengeful Townie

Welcome, [Player]! You are a Vengeful Townie.

Abilities:

  • Kill: When you are eliminated, you may target another player in the game to attempt to kill them.

Win Conditions:

  • You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

See Also

Similar Roles

A Gladiator limits the players eligible to be lynched to the Gladiator and its target.

A Vigilante is a Normally pro-Town role that can kill another player at night.

Related Articles

Vengeful Mafia is a setup that features a Day 1 Vengeful kill for Town, should they mislynch.