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|Title=2 of 4 | |||
|Setup Size=Micro | |||
|Players=9 | |||
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|type=Semi-Open | |||
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'''2of4''' was an experimental [[Newbie Setup]], trying to address flaws in [[F11]], which was determined to produce an inordinate number of mafia wins, and is being phased out as a result. The first game to utilize the new [[2of4]] setup was {{plink|t|17313|Newbie 1097}}. The setup was superseded by [[Matrix6]] with {{plink|t|28123|Newbie 1370}}. | |||
==Variations== | ===Setup name=== | ||
The name of the setup derived from the possible roles in the setup, where seven roles were predetermined, and '''2''' of '''4''' possible roles are chosen at random to fill the last two setup slots. The seven predetermined roles are 1 [[Mafia Goon]], 1 Mafia [[Role Cop]] (originally a [[Roleblocker]]), and 5 [[Vanilla Townie]]s. The '''4''' possible roles out of which '''2''' are chosen are: [[Sane Cop]], [[Doctor]], [[Jailkeeper]], or a sixth [[Vanilla Townie]]. There is no chance of duplication in these last two roles. | |||
===Variations=== | |||
There are '''six''' possible variations to this setup: | There are '''six''' possible variations to this setup: | ||
* 1 [[Mafia Goon]], 1 Mafia [[ | * 1 [[Mafia Goon]], 1 Mafia [[Role Cop]], 5 [[Vanilla Townie]]s, [[Sane Cop]], [[Doctor]]. | ||
* 1 [[Mafia Goon]], 1 Mafia [[ | * 1 [[Mafia Goon]], 1 Mafia [[Role Cop]], 5 [[Vanilla Townie]]s, [[Sane Cop]], [[Jailkeeper]]. | ||
* 1 [[Mafia Goon]], 1 Mafia [[ | * 1 [[Mafia Goon]], 1 Mafia [[Role Cop]], 5 [[Vanilla Townie]]s, [[Doctor]], [[Jailkeeper]]. | ||
* 1 [[Mafia Goon]], 1 Mafia [[ | * 1 [[Mafia Goon]], 1 Mafia [[Role Cop]], 6 [[Vanilla Townie]]s, [[Sane Cop]]. | ||
* 1 [[Mafia Goon]], 1 Mafia [[ | * 1 [[Mafia Goon]], 1 Mafia [[Role Cop]], 6 [[Vanilla Townie]]s, [[Jailkeeper]]. | ||
* 1 [[Mafia Goon]], 1 Mafia [[ | * 1 [[Mafia Goon]], 1 Mafia [[Role Cop]], 6 [[Vanilla Townie]]s, [[Doctor]]. | ||
===Balance Discussion=== | |||
As of {{plink|p|17479|Newbie 1102}} (May 2011), the Mafia [[Roleblocker]] in the setup was changed to a Mafia [[Role Cop]], to prevent "Roleblocker vs. Roleblocker" interactions, which were a common cause of dissent in the discussion involved in the creation of this [[Newbie Setup]]. | |||
The [[Mafia]] [[Role Cop]] is allowed to '''both''' submit the [[nightkill]] '''and''' perform his [[Role Cop]] action, no matter whether the Goon is dead or not; see {{plink|t|7093|this thread}}, among others, for discussion on the matter. Most of this discussion took place when the [[Roleblocker]] was still present in the setup. | |||
Eventually the setup was replaced by [[Matrix6]]. | |||
==== | =='''History:'''== | ||
Most games run with this setup were Newbie games. Here are the known games from outside the Newbie queue: | |||
{{SetupHistory/Database}} | |||
Latest revision as of 21:58, 17 January 2017
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2of4 was an experimental Newbie Setup, trying to address flaws in F11, which was determined to produce an inordinate number of mafia wins, and is being phased out as a result. The first game to utilize the new 2of4 setup was Newbie 1097. The setup was superseded by Matrix6 with Newbie 1370.
Setup name
The name of the setup derived from the possible roles in the setup, where seven roles were predetermined, and 2 of 4 possible roles are chosen at random to fill the last two setup slots. The seven predetermined roles are 1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Role Cop (originally a Roleblocker), and 5 Vanilla Townies. The 4 possible roles out of which 2 are chosen are: Sane Cop, Doctor, Jailkeeper, or a sixth Vanilla Townie. There is no chance of duplication in these last two roles.
Variations
There are six possible variations to this setup:
- 1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Role Cop, 5 Vanilla Townies, Sane Cop, Doctor.
- 1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Role Cop, 5 Vanilla Townies, Sane Cop, Jailkeeper.
- 1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Role Cop, 5 Vanilla Townies, Doctor, Jailkeeper.
- 1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Role Cop, 6 Vanilla Townies, Sane Cop.
- 1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Role Cop, 6 Vanilla Townies, Jailkeeper.
- 1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Role Cop, 6 Vanilla Townies, Doctor.
Balance Discussion
As of Newbie 1102 (May 2011), the Mafia Roleblocker in the setup was changed to a Mafia Role Cop, to prevent "Roleblocker vs. Roleblocker" interactions, which were a common cause of dissent in the discussion involved in the creation of this Newbie Setup.
The Mafia Role Cop is allowed to both submit the nightkill and perform his Role Cop action, no matter whether the Goon is dead or not; see this thread, among others, for discussion on the matter. Most of this discussion took place when the Roleblocker was still present in the setup.
Eventually the setup was replaced by Matrix6.
History:
Most games run with this setup were Newbie games. Here are the known games from outside the Newbie queue:
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| Open 328 - (Town Win) |