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*In the interest of balance, the Judas may not be told who the rest of the Mafia are upon conversion.
*In the interest of balance, the Judas may not be told who the rest of the Mafia are upon conversion.
*Judas may also appear in games with [[Saulus]], thus muddying what kind of role caused the lynch to stop.
*Judas may also appear in games with [[Saulus]], thus muddying what kind of role caused the lynch to stop.
*In [[Greater Idea Mafia]], the Judas converts only on lynch. If nightkilled, it dies normally.


==Use and Power==
==Use and Power==

Revision as of 22:03, 14 December 2013

Judas
Alias: none
Alignment:
Role type:
  • Alignment-Changing
  • Negative Utility
  • Misleading
Choice: none

A Judas is originally a pro-town role, but when it should die (either by lynch or other kill) it stays alive and converts to the Mafia's side instead. The Town is told nothing except that the lynch failed.

Judas is, of course, pro-Town... at first. See also Saulus. Judas is generally considered a bastard role.

Both roles are named after people from the New Testament of the Bible. The name 'Judas' derives from Judas Iscariot while 'Saulus' comes from the German for Saul of Tarsus a.k.a. Paul the Apostle.

Variations

The Judas role in practice tends to lead to ugly situations. However, that hasn't stopped mods from trying to make it work:

  • The Judas aspect is commonly Hidden from the player until they convert. (Since it's already a bastard role, why not?)
  • In the interest of balance, the Judas may not be told who the rest of the Mafia are upon conversion.
  • Judas may also appear in games with Saulus, thus muddying what kind of role caused the lynch to stop.
  • In Greater Idea Mafia, the Judas converts only on lynch. If nightkilled, it dies normally.

Use and Power

Judas is actually not that bad for balance if it gets lynched immediately upon conversion; in games with a single Night-kill it evens out to a single mislynch - which is what the Judas would have been if it were lynched as a Vanilla Townie anyway. The major concern plaguing Judas is the alignment change (see Category:Alignment-Changing roles for more information).

If you do not want it known that a Judas is in the game, consider having extended Twilights so as to give the illusion of the existence of a Governor.