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Feel free to help me constructing my Setup ideas: [[Matrix 14]] and [[Charge Me Up!]]






= My games so far... =
= About myself... =


=== Newbie 1513 – Lingo Linguistics [http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=58001] ===
Everything has changed since I left MafiaScum, but one thing has remained the same. Just keep checking those spoilers I keep posting!


''Modded by:'' Cabd
=== How to read Aneninen? ===


''Role:'' Vanilla Townie
I don't know. I'm outdated, I guess.


''Entered the game:'' start
== Aneninen's Tells ==


''Ended the game:'' lynched at LyLo
Here are some tells based upon my personal experience. Sometimes they even work. Or they used to work a couple of years ago. Never mind, I keep it here. Then my page looks as if I did something useful.


''Outcome:'' Scum win


''Overall fun:'' 4
=== The Regardless Of Card ===


''My gameplay:'' 4
If someone's scumreading you (or another player) regardless of everything you post, that player is usually scum (or a very bad townie).


''Story:''
It's similar to tunneling with a major difference. The scumread never changes as the game progresses and ''everything'' is a scumtell. I mean, if you think that if you posted the ''opposite'' thing, it would be just as scummy in the particular player's eyes, it's a Regardless Of Card. ''Especially'' if they call scumtells contradicting things!


That was my first game on MafiaScum.
This dialogue is a typical (and of course, fictional) example for using the Regardless Of Card:


I got annoyed very early and that determined many things in the game.
''Chenjesu: You're parking your vote Melnorme, and that's a vanity wagon. You're scum!''


However, I had been in the queue for more than a week before the game finally began. It started about 3 days later because some of the players didn't pick their Role PM at all. So, it took almost two weeks to get into a game after I had signed to the forum.
''Mycon: I'm voting for Melnorme because I think he's the scummiest.''
After this I got FoS-ed and attacked for silly reasons on early-Day1. Of course, I wouldn't care about it too much ''now'', but I got upset because I thought that I would get lynched quickly and I would need to queue for a long time again to get into another game.


The overall atmosphere was terrible, partly because of me: I thought that the more experienced players were scum and they wanted to get rid of the newbies, because of "why not". (A thing like that is very common in most situations (projects, work, friendship, etc.) both on the Internet and In Real Life in my country.) No surprise that my "theory" was wrong.
''Chenjesu: But you posted in ''[post number]'' that you're scumreading Thraddash. If you were town, you'd vote for your scumreads.''


On Day3 I solved the game, but after my early gameplay no one really cared. In the Death Thread even the townies were for the remaining scum, saying that "he's ace in the game" (in reality he did almost nothing) and there was a mere comment about me, something like "lol, he has solved the game".
''Mycon: I'm voting for my strongest scumread.''


''Chenjesu: Because you know that the Melnorme-wagon won't go anywhere.''


''Summary:''
''Mycon:'' [posts reasons for scumreading Thraddash, who has a long wagon at that moment, and votes for him.]


I'd never be such a bad-tempered player if I were in the same game now. But, it wasn't only me who was responsible for the bad atmosphere. The town could have paid attention to my later posts; the gameplay of a Newbie can change ''a lot'' during a single game.
''Chenjesu: Wow, you've just jumped on the longest wagon! Die, scum!''




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The Regardless Of Card is often paired with tunneling, the one who plays the Regardless Of Card usually starts agitating others to join the wagon against you.


=== Mini 1584 Neuroscience Mafia [http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=58191] ===
It's a very useful tell on Day1 however, it's much easier to spot a Regardless Of Card if it's played against you.


''Modded by:'' Kagami
Caveat: on later Days (if it's played against another player) it's not essentially a scumtell. It may come from a town-PR with an investigation result too!


''Role:'' Town Mason


''Entered the game:'' start
=== MissMarple-ing ===


''Ended the game:'' lynched at LyLo
This one works on newer and/or unknown players.


''Outcome:'' Scum win
If you experience from a player a certain gameplay/posting style that you've already seen in another game from someone else, those two players often have the same alignment.


''Overall fun:'' 8
Fictional example (and this is one of the easiest example too):


''My gameplay:'' 7
You remember a player from a game who kept vote-hopping all the time, made zillions of short posts, FoS-ed everyone, and as a strong wagon had emerged on him/her got sulky and started tunneling the first name on the wagon. Got Eliminated early (most probably on Day1) and flipped town.


''Story:''
You're playing with a player who's doing the same – that player is usually town as well.


Like wow, my fist non-Newbie and I even had a town-PR.
For doing MissMarple-ing you need to bank on your ''own'' impressions: in most cases phrases, post lengths, etc. are worth more than "traditional" tells.  


Although I got involved in an unnecessary fight on Day1, I got out of it later. I enjoyed almost everything in this game. We lynched Mafia on Day1 and his partner on Day2. Overall, I managed to be funny and focused at the same time.  
Caveat: MissMarple-ing is not working if it turns out that the player you don't know is an alt of an experienced player. (In that case they're often miming a newbie!) Also, it can't replace scumtells like votes, slips, etc.


Unfortunately it was a Multiball. We thought that there were an SK. As far as I can remember, I posted once "what if there's another scumgroup" but my idea was turned down. Too bad that I was right. On Day2 there was a massive fight between Thor and Elyse. We lynched Thor and gave a free pass to Elyse, even if I strongly thought that she was scum. Actually, she was – and I didn't think that the fight was a scum-vs-scum fight.  
(It's named after the star of the Agatha Christie-books: Miss Jane Marple used to find murders by spotting common things between the people involved in a case and people living in her village.)


On Day3 we mislynched (BlueBloodedToffe, I think) and we didn't even know that we were at a LyLo on Day4. I got quicklynched by the Werewolves in the middle of a conversation while I was having dinner.
=== Parallel Activity Check ===


As a Mason, I had fun. MuffinMan was hard defending me, I was distancing (we lost our third member, MDD-hydra at Night1), maybe I overdid it a bit... but I simply didn't have time to finish my reads at LyLo.
Removed; as far as I can see, it's not allowed to talk about other ongoing games in any form anymore.


The whole game was a bit unlucky. There were no crosskills and after killing the Mafias we didn't suspect that there might be Werewolves. (Nothing referred to the existence of another scum ''team''.)
=== Vacuum Activity ===


The Wikipedia says the following about this concept: ''fixed action patterns of animal behaviour that are performed in the absence of the external stimuli that normally elicit them. This type of abnormal behaviour shows that a key stimulus is not always needed to produce an activity.''


''Summary:''
At Mafia, this means the following: townies are scumhunting and they do so even if there are no scumposts present – however, in this case, they start finding scumtells in each others' posts.


This was one of the best games I've been in. The atmosphere (apart from one thing) was good, the people were fun to play with. We were good. The scums were better. Gratz, Elyse, Fat_Tony!
So, if there are unusually vehement fights in early-game (typically early-Day1) with only a couple of players involved, ''and'' these players flip town later, the scums are probably amongst the lurkers or those players who didn't produce any useful content in that game phase.  




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=== Unexpected Gamestall ===


=== Mini 1585 – Muskoka Murder Mystery [http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=58243] ===
There are stalls in almost every games. Sometimes the whole game starts out very slow, sometimes a late-Day is passing without any content for days. Even if it's undesired, it's normal.


''Modded by:'' BipolarChemist
On the other hand, sometimes the game gets stalled at strange points. A typical Unexpected Daystall situation is the following: it's Mid-game (eg. Day3), there are two strong wagons, both are close to Elim and suddenly the posts get infrequent, the votes are not moving at all. Even prods occur. It's very likely that in a situation like this ''none of the wagoned players are scum''. The scums are in safety so they don't have to build counterwagons, nor pushing a wagon to mis-Elim – after all, they think being away from a mis-Elim earns them town-credit. (I know it's not true but many scums may think so!)


''Role:'' Vanilla Townie
Caveat: an early-game stall or a MisElim-or-Lose-stall is never an Unexpected Stall. Also, sometimes a game can get stalled because the most active players are away. So, if you suspect that the game has slowed down only because the most talkative players are not posting anything useful, that's a null in most cases.


''Entered the game:'' start
= My games so far... =
 
''Ended the game:'' Killed at Night5 (?)
 
''Outcome:'' Scum win
 
''Overall fun:'' 6
 
''My gameplay:'' 2
 
''Story:''
 
This was terrible.
 
The Tracker (ChaosLord) targeted me early and because of this, the claims and the flips I had every information to solve the game, I should only have read the players...
 
...but I did nothing. I collected every bit of info, posted them and waited for the others to solve the game. Since they didn't believe that I was town, nothing happened. As a respond I made absolutely no effort. I watched how a wagon dissolved after my hammer-intent – this made Konowa (who was scum) live for another two days.
 
On my last day I started to pull myself and my thoughts together but that was too late. By the way my reads were wrong too.
 
 
''Summary:''
 
I could have won this one for the town if I had done something... anything. The game itself was fun (I especially liked the flavor), but I consider this one my worst gameplay so far.
 
 
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=== Mini 1601 – B_E's Mind Mafia [http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=58778] ===
 
''Modded by:'' Burning_Earth
 
''Role:'' Vanilla Townie
 
''Entered the game:'' replaced in, Day1
 
''Ended the game:'' –
 
''Outcome:'' Abandoned
 
''Overall fun:'' 5
 
''My gameplay:'' 6
 
''Story:''
 
I replaced into a very scummy slot. I still managed to survive the Day. Next Day I started to strengthen my position, which was good, considering that my slot had almost been lynched before I arrived.
 
Actually it hadn't been ''almost''. Due to a Mod Error my slot had actually been lynched before I replaced into, and because of this the game was abandoned.
 
 
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=== Open 567 – Pick Your Power [http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=58769] ===
 
''Modded by:'' burn_209
 
''Role:'' Town Neighbourizer
 
''Entered the game:'' from scratch
 
''Ended the game:'' –
 
''Outcome:'' Abandoned
 
''Overall fun:'' 4
 
''My gameplay:'' 5
 
''Story:''
 
The game started good, but because of general inactivity it slowed down later. The prods were infrequent, plenty of players were lurking, left the game, flaked out etc. In the end the mod disappeared too (as far as I can remember) and the Backup mod couldn't salvage all the necessary info for going on with the game.
 
It's a pity. I neibourized a scum (Hershey Kiss) at Night1 and she thought that she were be able to fool me all the time. Of course I never told her that I FoS-ed him (partly because picking Tracker instead of Jailkeeper, partly because her lurky style, partly because of intuition). If the game hadn't been abandoned, we could have had an interesting fight. What a pity.
 
 
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=== Mini 1602 [http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=58816] ===
 
''Modded by:'' SleepyKrew
 
''Role:'' Vanilla Townie
 
''Entered the game:'' from scratch
 
''Ended the game:'' survived
 
''Outcome:'' Town win
 
''Overall fun:'' 8


''My gameplay:'' 6
I don't think I'll ever update this lol.


''Story:''


That was such a cute little game. On Day1 we were about to lynch Neil but he claimed Cop. By examining parallel games I managed to make it sure that he was scum.  
= For those Stat-Freaks... =


The game got stalled later many times. Although I couldn't use this info, I learned how to read this phenomenon. (See above!) Even if I lost focus a couple of times, jumped on terrible wagons, at the end I posted a possible solution. Although it was half-baked at best, it was enough for Bert to finish my case and win the game for us.  
Yeah, here's how my record stood ages ago.


The modding was excellent. The death scenes with our avatars were funny, SleepyKrew was always focused and I especially liked his PMs: whenever I was getting close to a prod, he sent me a PM.


''Summary:''
{| border="1" celpadding="6" style="text-align: center"
|-
| || style="font-weight:bold" | –Won– || style="font-weight:bold" | –Lost– || style="font-weight:bold" | –Other–
|-
|  style="font-weight:bold" | As Town ||  16 ||  13 ||  2
|-
|  style="font-weight:bold" | As Scum ||  6 ||  6 ||  0
|-
|  style="font-weight:bold" | As Third Party ||  2 ||  0 ||  0
|-
|}


Funny game, good players, good atmosphere, excellent modding. I could have been better but my acceptable performance was enough, fortunately.




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''More game reviews will come, along with another kind of information.''
[[Category:Scummers]][[Category:Birds]]

Latest revision as of 20:32, 14 October 2023


Prefer to be a Pro-town Player. J townie opt16.gif


Feel free to help me constructing my Setup ideas: Matrix 14 and Charge Me Up!


About myself...

Everything has changed since I left MafiaScum, but one thing has remained the same. Just keep checking those spoilers I keep posting!

How to read Aneninen?

I don't know. I'm outdated, I guess.

Aneninen's Tells

Here are some tells based upon my personal experience. Sometimes they even work. Or they used to work a couple of years ago. Never mind, I keep it here. Then my page looks as if I did something useful.


The Regardless Of Card

If someone's scumreading you (or another player) regardless of everything you post, that player is usually scum (or a very bad townie).

It's similar to tunneling with a major difference. The scumread never changes as the game progresses and everything is a scumtell. I mean, if you think that if you posted the opposite thing, it would be just as scummy in the particular player's eyes, it's a Regardless Of Card. Especially if they call scumtells contradicting things!

This dialogue is a typical (and of course, fictional) example for using the Regardless Of Card:

Chenjesu: You're parking your vote Melnorme, and that's a vanity wagon. You're scum!

Mycon: I'm voting for Melnorme because I think he's the scummiest.

Chenjesu: But you posted in [post number] that you're scumreading Thraddash. If you were town, you'd vote for your scumreads.

Mycon: I'm voting for my strongest scumread.

Chenjesu: Because you know that the Melnorme-wagon won't go anywhere.

Mycon: [posts reasons for scumreading Thraddash, who has a long wagon at that moment, and votes for him.]

Chenjesu: Wow, you've just jumped on the longest wagon! Die, scum!


The Regardless Of Card is often paired with tunneling, the one who plays the Regardless Of Card usually starts agitating others to join the wagon against you.

It's a very useful tell on Day1 – however, it's much easier to spot a Regardless Of Card if it's played against you.

Caveat: on later Days (if it's played against another player) it's not essentially a scumtell. It may come from a town-PR with an investigation result too!


MissMarple-ing

This one works on newer and/or unknown players.

If you experience from a player a certain gameplay/posting style that you've already seen in another game from someone else, those two players often have the same alignment.

Fictional example (and this is one of the easiest example too):

You remember a player from a game who kept vote-hopping all the time, made zillions of short posts, FoS-ed everyone, and as a strong wagon had emerged on him/her got sulky and started tunneling the first name on the wagon. Got Eliminated early (most probably on Day1) and flipped town.

You're playing with a player who's doing the same – that player is usually town as well.

For doing MissMarple-ing you need to bank on your own impressions: in most cases phrases, post lengths, etc. are worth more than "traditional" tells.

Caveat: MissMarple-ing is not working if it turns out that the player you don't know is an alt of an experienced player. (In that case they're often miming a newbie!) Also, it can't replace scumtells like votes, slips, etc.

(It's named after the star of the Agatha Christie-books: Miss Jane Marple used to find murders by spotting common things between the people involved in a case and people living in her village.)

Parallel Activity Check

Removed; as far as I can see, it's not allowed to talk about other ongoing games in any form anymore.

Vacuum Activity

The Wikipedia says the following about this concept: fixed action patterns of animal behaviour that are performed in the absence of the external stimuli that normally elicit them. This type of abnormal behaviour shows that a key stimulus is not always needed to produce an activity.

At Mafia, this means the following: townies are scumhunting and they do so even if there are no scumposts present – however, in this case, they start finding scumtells in each others' posts.

So, if there are unusually vehement fights in early-game (typically early-Day1) with only a couple of players involved, and these players flip town later, the scums are probably amongst the lurkers or those players who didn't produce any useful content in that game phase.


Unexpected Gamestall

There are stalls in almost every games. Sometimes the whole game starts out very slow, sometimes a late-Day is passing without any content for days. Even if it's undesired, it's normal.

On the other hand, sometimes the game gets stalled at strange points. A typical Unexpected Daystall situation is the following: it's Mid-game (eg. Day3), there are two strong wagons, both are close to Elim and suddenly the posts get infrequent, the votes are not moving at all. Even prods occur. It's very likely that in a situation like this none of the wagoned players are scum. The scums are in safety so they don't have to build counterwagons, nor pushing a wagon to mis-Elim – after all, they think being away from a mis-Elim earns them town-credit. (I know it's not true but many scums may think so!)

Caveat: an early-game stall or a MisElim-or-Lose-stall is never an Unexpected Stall. Also, sometimes a game can get stalled because the most active players are away. So, if you suspect that the game has slowed down only because the most talkative players are not posting anything useful, that's a null in most cases.

My games so far...

I don't think I'll ever update this lol.


For those Stat-Freaks...

Yeah, here's how my record stood ages ago.


–Won– –Lost– –Other–
As Town 16 13 2
As Scum 6 6 0
As Third Party 2 0 0