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A '''Miller''' (sometimes called an ''Outsider'') is typified as a member of the town with an air of corruption and/or suspicion surrounding him.  Thus a Miller acts like a normal [[Townie]] in every way except for one important feature: whenever a [[Cop]] investigates a Miller, the [[Moderator]] returns a [[guilty]] result, even though the Miller is [[pro-Town]].
A '''Miller''' (sometimes called an ''Outsider'') is a [[Vanilla Townie]] that will still show up as guilty on a [[Cop]]'s investigation despite being [[pro-Town]].  Depending upon the moderator, a Miller may show up guilty on other investigations, such as a [[Gunsmith]]'s.


Sometimes an important part of a Miller role is that the player is not told this aspect of their role.  Rather the Moderator assigns one person to be the Miller, but only tells him/her that the role is a vanilla townie.  Thus, the Miller cannot simply claim their role [[Day]] 1 as a prevention against [[lynch]]ing.
Miller can also be a role modifier onto another role, such as a Miller [[Doctor]].


==Variations==
Sometimes, a Miller may be unaware of their Miller state -- that part of their role is [[hidden]] from them.  This is used in some [[Open]] setups (like [[C9++]]) to prevent the Miller from functioning like a [[Named Townie]].  An unaware Miller in a closed setup borders on the [[Bastard_Mod|bastardly]].
A rather controversial twist is the '''Death Miller''', whose [[alignment]] is shown as "Mafia" by the [[Moderator]] upon death.  This has been argued and discussed in {{plainlink|t|3460|Ethics Threads}} as a source of distrust in the Moderator, which most people feel should not be tolerated.  Thus, the Death Miller is an extremely scarcely used role.
==Use and Balance==
The foremost use of Millers is to weaken the power of a [[Cop]].  A Cop may prematurely claim with a guilty result upon the Miller, outting himself to the [[Mafia]], or a [[Mafia]] member with a guilty result upon them may claim to be a Miller to avoid being lynched.
Less commonly, a Miller may be put into a game without a [[Cop]], as a red herring.
==Play Advice==
If you are a Miller, there are two schools of thought about optimal play:
The first school of thought is that you should claim immediately, ideally in your opening post.  This ensures that the [[Cop]] will not waste an investigation on you.  It becomes more likely that you will be lynched, or shot by a [[Vigilante]], however; otherwise, it would be too easy for [[Mafia]] to [[fakeclaim]] Miller as well.
The second school of thought is that you should not claim, but should play in such a way as to not get investigated; ideally, you would get yourself killed at Night.
==Origin==
The original Outsider role appears to have been independently developed by [http://web.archive.org/web/20020105094500/http://www.princeton.edu/~mafia/vr15.htm the Princeton Brotherhood] in [[MeatWorld]] as early as 2002 and, locally, [[Norinel]] [http://www.mafiascum.net/archive/viewtopic.php?p=40101#p40101 in late 2003].
The original Outsider role appears to have been independently developed by [http://web.archive.org/web/20020105094500/http://www.princeton.edu/~mafia/vr15.htm the Princeton Brotherhood] in [[MeatWorld]] as early as 2002 and, locally, [[Norinel]] [http://www.mafiascum.net/archive/viewtopic.php?p=40101#p40101 in late 2003].
== Death Miller ==
A rather controversial twist is the '''Death Miller''', whose [[alignment]] is shown as "guilty" by the [[Moderator]] upon death.  This has been argued and discussed in {{plainlink|t|3460|Ethics Threads}} as a source of distrust in the Moderator, which most people feel should not be tolerated.  Thus, the Death Miller is an extremely scarcely used role.

Revision as of 21:41, 16 July 2011

Miller
Alias:
  • Outsider
Alignment:
Role type:
  • Manipulative
Choice: none

A Miller (sometimes called an Outsider) is a Vanilla Townie that will still show up as guilty on a Cop's investigation despite being pro-Town. Depending upon the moderator, a Miller may show up guilty on other investigations, such as a Gunsmith's.

Miller can also be a role modifier onto another role, such as a Miller Doctor.

Variations

Sometimes, a Miller may be unaware of their Miller state -- that part of their role is hidden from them. This is used in some Open setups (like C9++) to prevent the Miller from functioning like a Named Townie. An unaware Miller in a closed setup borders on the bastardly.

A rather controversial twist is the Death Miller, whose alignment is shown as "Mafia" by the Moderator upon death. This has been argued and discussed in Ethics Threads as a source of distrust in the Moderator, which most people feel should not be tolerated. Thus, the Death Miller is an extremely scarcely used role.

Use and Balance

The foremost use of Millers is to weaken the power of a Cop. A Cop may prematurely claim with a guilty result upon the Miller, outting himself to the Mafia, or a Mafia member with a guilty result upon them may claim to be a Miller to avoid being lynched.

Less commonly, a Miller may be put into a game without a Cop, as a red herring.

Play Advice

If you are a Miller, there are two schools of thought about optimal play:

The first school of thought is that you should claim immediately, ideally in your opening post. This ensures that the Cop will not waste an investigation on you. It becomes more likely that you will be lynched, or shot by a Vigilante, however; otherwise, it would be too easy for Mafia to fakeclaim Miller as well.

The second school of thought is that you should not claim, but should play in such a way as to not get investigated; ideally, you would get yourself killed at Night.

Origin

The original Outsider role appears to have been independently developed by the Princeton Brotherhood in MeatWorld as early as 2002 and, locally, Norinel in late 2003.